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Episode 9 – Technology Not Necessary

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Rokture Ramblings – Episode 9 – Technology Not Really Needed

Hello everyone, and welcome to Rokture Ramblings, where I discuss topics around digital 

marketing, marketing technology, and marketing operations for the financial services industry. 

My name is Fernando Pena, and I’m the founder of Rokture, where I can help you master the digital 

channel. Today’s topic is in response to what I hear from a lot of leaders in terms of their challenges 

and what they’re looking to do going forward. And really a lot of that conversation focuses 

around technology. And one of the first things that I come back with them or to them with is that 

you don’t need technology, you need solutions. Now that might sound a little unusual coming 

from someone who’s such an advocate for digital marketing, but it’s true. You really should 

not make decisions just based on the need for a technology, but more so an overall solution to 

your problems or your challenges. So what I’ll be going over today is that technology really 

just is a tool, how to align your strategy and your  


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goals, informed selection of those tools, technology should complement the process and also 

deploying those solutions as a whole. So let’s get started. So again, as I mentioned before, 

technology really is just a tool. And the reality of it is, is that no matter what technology 

you bring in, and whatever these providers may say, these platforms do not generate revenue 

or growth. They are tools that if properly utilized, they actually can help with achieving 

both of these goals. But they don’t do this all on their own. And they’re not the magic sort of 

solution that will automatically bring your organization to exceed your objectives. Another 

issue too, is that inadequate use of technology might actually hinder your organization more 

than help. And I often see this where a platform is brought in, and now all resources are dedicated 

to trying to understand and work through that platform. And ultimately, they lose sight of 

why they’re really trying to achieve these potential metrics that they  


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put in front of them. And it’s not so much that the platform itself is flawed, but it’s just that 

too much emphasis is placed on that tech, and not necessarily meeting those organizational 

objectives. And that leads to the next point here, which is that resources that are traditionally 

budgeted for marketing or operational use, are then devoted to these technologies. And ultimately, 

that does then create a slowdown in terms of being able to achieve the objectives that you have 

stated. So again, technology is not a bad thing here. That’s not what I’m saying, because ultimately, 

it is something that is beneficial when used properly. But it’s just that by saying, I need a 

CRM, the question that you should really be asking is, why do you need a CRM? What is it that you 

notice that there’s a deficiency in, and where the CRM might be able to address that deficiency? 

 


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So the most important thing when you’re considering technology is to make sure to align your 

strategy and goals. And this has to come all the way from the top. So as an organizational leader, 

what are the objectives of that company? Oftentimes of financial services, it’s either growth 

of some sort, or maybe cross -selling and increasing and deepening a relationship, or it could 

be revenue -based. But it all has to be agreed upon, because ultimately, that’s what you will 

use to base your decisions on, whether that technology is needed or not. And what does your organization 

have to do to meet those objectives? So is it something that can be created, a more efficient 

process by using technology? If so, then you should absolutely look for it. But in some cases, 

maybe it’s something where there’s an internal process that is broken and just needs to be improved 

upon in order to be able to meet your needs. What resources are needed to meet those goals? This 

is important, because again, dedicating  


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too many resources to a particular project could be detrimental to the organization as a whole. 

And what functionality do you need to achieve those goals? And I’ll get into this a little bit 

more in the presentation. But what’s important is not so much a platform type or a platform category, 

but what do you need this technology to do? And that’s ultimately where you then make the decision 

as to what platform you might need going forward.  


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So informed selection of tools. Now, what’s happened lately, or not lately, but really in recent 

years, the technology categories have pretty much blurred. So what used to be like, let’s say, 

a CRM or a sales automation tool has now morphed into a complete marketing solution. And that’s 

great, because you’re getting a lot more bang for your buck. But also at the same time, there 

might be some functionality that may not necessarily align with what you need. And so therefore, 

it’s still a good idea to look at individual functionalities and not necessarily a platform 

type. So it’s possible that a CRM tool might be able to do everything for you, but you may then 

find that the email capabilities of that tool are insufficient for your needs. Now, you have 

to also understand how this tool can help you reach your organizational objective. So assess 

that particular function, and not necessarily that it’s a good system, but it’s a good system 

in your particular use case. When you’re assessing these  


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tools, make sure to use your actual metrics and not theoretical, because that will help you 

in making sure that this is actually going to move the needle when it comes to your needs and not 

just this magical use case where everything falls into place. And of course, it’s not really 

reflecting reality. The other important part is to involve all relevant stakeholders and 

parties on the decision. Now, it’s not to say that you need this huge committee to make these 

decisions, but make sure to involve your IT team, make sure to involve sales, make sure to involve 

customer service and support, as ultimately they’re all going to be impacted by this technology 

decision. So you want their feedback and you want to be able to understand and really be able 

to draw out of them the needs that they have and make sure that they’re met by whatever it is that 

you’re considering.  


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Now, technology really should complement a process. Now, if there’s processes that are broken, 

then obviously they need to be fixed. But really what you should do is to build your processes 

independent of technology. So if you have a way of fulfilling a certain campaign or doing something 

that is done within your organization today, make sure to build that process where technology 

plugs into it within the specific scenarios where it’s needed. Now, you’ll want to make sure 

to optimize these processes, of course, so that you have more productivity and benefit to your 

organization. So, again, if it’s a broken process, by all means, fix it. But make sure that you 

are working the technology into your process and not the other way around, because then that 

means you become dependent upon a particular tool or a particular sort of platform. And in the 

event that that platform goes out of business, changes functionality, or for some reason you 

outgrow it, then you have difficulty in trying to rein  


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in your process and make sure that it works for your needs. So adopt the technology into the process 

and not the other way around. The other thing, too, is that continually track your key performance 

indicators and metrics to determine if the technology is properly performing. That way you 

can, in time, especially during contract renewals, use that as a negotiation tactic with your 

vendors saying that, hey, you know, we are tracking everything very closely and ultimately 

we’re not meeting the sort of expectations of this platform and we may have to reconsider going 

in a different direction.  


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And finally, is deployment of the solutions. So when you’re doing this, a lot of times many stakeholders 

or project leaders, when they’re deploying technology, will basically go into the project 

discussing how this technology is beneficial. But really what you want to do is to package solutions, 

because what this does now is that it sort of breaks down the barriers where instead of this being 

a black box, it’s something that is comprehensive and it’s able to achieve this metric or this 

goal or this objective that you’ve stated. So package your strategy, your tactics, your processes 

and your technology as a solution. And that is ultimately where you’ll see successes so that 

you can make sure that this entire movement is being utilized and properly adopted by the organization 

because it’s widely accepted that this is not just a software. This is something that’s actually 

helping the organization as a whole because we’ve looked at the entire big picture. So tie all 

the outcomes of the solution  


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directly to the organizational objectives. So this is important as well, because if you have 

a tool that helps to bring in extra phone calls, but yet phone calls aren’t necessarily the metric 

that you’re trying to increase, it’s deepening a relationship, then it’s time to change the 

metrics that you’re tracking to the deepening of the relationships. Granted, the tool isn’t 

necessarily doing that itself, but it’s helping to as part of that process to meet that end objective. 

And the last thing here is really avoid being penny wise, pound foolish. And this is easier said 

than done oftentimes because budgets are highly scrutinized. But keep in mind that there’s 

a lot of disruption when you try to implement a new solution, especially a new technology. And 

you don’t want to be doing that again in a short period of time. You’re hoping that when you implement 

something, it will be the solution that can be leveraged for the foreseeable future. So a little 

bit more of an investment up front and  


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studying exactly what is needed and and how it’s going to be utilized is it pays dividends in 

the end. And that would be much better than rushing and implementing something to try to to meet 

some salesperson’s quarterly quota and and get the better deal on it. So I would forego the deal 

instead and make sure that you’re getting the right solution and that it’s properly implemented 

for your sake. So that is it for today’s discussion. Obviously, this is something that we can 

spend months discussing. But if you do have any questions on this topic or any others related 

to digital within financial services, give me a call or reach out to me by email. All my contact 

information is on this page. And and until the next topic, I will see you again in the next video. 

Thank you so much for your time. Bye bye.